Queensland Roar Nil Newcastle Jets One
There was no Roar in the Jets and no Jet in Robbie Kruse or the Roar tonight.
Simon Lynch missed a penalty. No surprise there, not when you saw how he stepped up to it. A bag of nerves!
A record crowd for domestic football in New Zealand. 18,000 turned out to see the Phoenix lose 2-1 to Adelaide.
Paul Agostino scored, Daniel equalised from the spot and then with Adelaide reduced to ten men and the huge and passionate crowd roaring the Nix home, the goal had to come.
Felipe did at last six step overs in one attack. Great great stuff. Eventually it was crossed in and Vaughan Coveny somehow missed a header from six yards.
The goal had to come. And it did for Adelaide.
Beautiful Burns, Nathan Burns did what he does best. Particularly when New Zealand teams don't defend!
Burns holds the ball, drifts into space and plays a ball to the flicking feet of Paul Agostino who had spotted the run of Lucas Pantelis who squeezed the ball home.
Great goal.
But how much space can ten men give eleven? Burns unmarked, Pantelis not tracked when it was ten up against eleven.
Now everyone tells us how good the Coach Ricky Herbert is but last minute points dropped to The Mariners, Sydney and now Adelaide all at home suggest something else.
All due to poor play, poor defence, or poor coaching?
But let's celebrate the New Zealand crowd.The Wellington Phoenix fans were absolutely superb. Heaps of them. Singing, cheering showing they clearly understand the game.
Great for the Phoenix, great for the A-League and great for the future of football in our region.
Well done to the Phoenix, now for the points!
The first half of the Nearpost radio show will go across the Australian Community Radio Network come January 2nd. (Up to 350 stations could take the show I'm told.)
We would welcome a Sound Technician to control the radio production side of things.
Would be great for someone wanting to get fantastic experience, or someone who just loves football. 2XX will train you, and you can start ASAP.
Please pass it on to any Canberran who you think might be interested. Better still get involved yourself! Email me at: flanagan.eamonnATgmail.com
Will it be a record crowd bringing Wellington home, can The Roar make it nine unbeaten games in a row, will Victory lose at Perth, and can the Mariners do what Beckham couldn't?
Predictions here:
Not much news last night, but AFC President Mr Bin Hamman talked of commercialising the Asian Champions League. Only 9 countries to be involved with maybe up to 4 Australian teams, come 2009.
And a Japanese, Australian and America team to play in a Pan-Pacific tournament in Hawaii. Sydney FC Director Antony LaPaglia thought it was a great idea. Prize money, TV Revenues, looks great, especially if The Beckham is involved. Imagine if Posh came as well!
And all A-League teams now have a Shirt Sponsor. With the Coffee Club with over 200 stores across Australia now staining the Shirts of Queensland Roar.
Slowly, but surely revenue increases for football across the country.
15,000 New Zealand Children to attend a Beckham training session!
Has the World gone mad?
Have they ever had that for an All Blacks training sessions?
Over in New Zealand, my favourite NZ football team EVER the Wellington Phoenix, are expecting to break records galore.
With 29,000 tickets for the Beckham game sold the record of 31,000 for a football match in NZ is expected to be broken.
And a record Phoenix crowd is expected for the Phoenix v Adelaide A-League game on Friday night.
In New Zealand, it's great stuff and hats off to the Yellow Fever.
February the 6th, 2008. That's the day football in Australia will go to a new level, forever.
That's the date of our first ever World Cup Qualifier through the Asian Football Confederation.
Imagine if Australia qualified for the next TWO World Cups. How many games would Australia have had to win. At least 5 competitive World Cup games each year, followed by the actual World Cup itself.
How much media coverage will these Socceroos World Cup games earn?
Even the "old media" attitudes will be defeated by the size of the World Cup, the interest of the people particularly at key points along the road.
Football will never have had such consistent coverage.
And of course, because the A-League is in place, the Women's league soon to start, Asian Champions League and a Fox Sports TV deal, Australian football is in a position to grow like never before.
February 6th. It all starts then.....now we just have to win a few games!
So says the AFC Executive Committee which met in Sydney today. Below is the press release. Not, much in it, but all this Asia stuff is getting me excited.
You're 3-0 up, 80,000 people and Ufuk Talay fouls.
A soft foul, right in front of the goal.
Ufuk you didn't did you?. Nah it just happened.
Then yer man Becks steps up. Where would he put it?
Well the most famous Englishman ever didn't get famous without everyone knowing he bends it into the top corner.
Everyone knew except Clint Bolton or so it seemed.
As the ball sailed towards goal Clint must have got the surprise of his life to see a Beckham free-kick going top corner.
And did he appear slow to stretch across, or was it just me.
You see I've been brought up on exhibition sports. From a young age it was wrestling on TV, and when the Beckham bender went in, me just thought....wrestling.
Clint you didn't did you?
Alfred Galustian, International Director and Co-founder of Coerver Coaching
Coever Coaching have recently formed an alliance with Capital Football to develop young players through the 9-12 Capital Football/Coerver Academies.
Alfred Galustian, International Director and Co-founder of Coerver Coaching based in Japan, is in Canberra this week to discuss the roll-out of Coerver across Australia. We met for coffee at the Hyatt to talk football.
There was 80,000 plus when the teams came out for the Sydney Galaxy game, it was electric for a friendly, even on my telly:)
I'm not normally into friendlies no matter how many people, or Beckham's on show, but when the game started I just wanted Sydney to thrash Galaxy.
And I heard the Cove singing and I thought yes I know these guys. These are the ones who I listen to every week.
and the Sydney FC banner they had was brilliant, "70,000 people, we play every week."
Tonight 6.30pm if you are in Canberra. 98.3fm or tomorrow on the podcast
What does Arnie think about the Olyroos win and what it means to football in Australia
Can we get to the World Cup. John Aloisi gives us his thoughts.
Former Young Matilda Nicole Somi talks about her football journey.
A-League talk, we've got it all.
Arif Hossein on his 'big issue' and it's big.
And all the local football news.
With Jurgen Klinsman definitely out of the running for the Australian job, England may be of more interest, what about Ossie Ardiles?
Ardiles is a World Cup winner with Argentina, played in England with Spurs and Spain, has coached in Asia for eight years, and is currently coaching in the Argentinean first division.
Seems Japan have contacted Jorvan Vieira in case they need a coach to take over from Ivica Osim who is currently in hospital recovering from illness.
Australia haven't been in touch.
Why? Does Vieira have too much Asia experience. He's won Asian International trophies, been to World Cups, speaks many languages, and is culturally aware. Fits my bill.
Vieira is just travelling the World watching football at the moment. He has no club.
Surely with Vieira free you think he would be considered now the Dick has done the dash.
Apparently not!
Not on your nelly!
Following Celtic over the years we fans have grown used to Shunsuke popping off to play for Japan, even for friendlies.
Well, if Scott McDonald and the other guys in England claim Iraq, China and Qatar is too far, I for one will be watching with fingers poised, specially if Shunsuke Scott's club mate leaves for Japan.
If the FFA plan the home Australian games in the June and October dates, every Australian should be available for every game.
A few of the Aussie boys need to have a look at some of their fellow Asian European based players before they shout "It's too far."
China, Iraq and Qatar. That's who Australia drew in the 2010 World Cup draw overnight.
And it's a fantastic draw. Not for our chances of going through. Not because all our overseas players won't be turning up for all of the games.
But because every game will be competitive, highly competitive and that after all is why we joined Asia.
They lacked energy. Even when The Roar were down to ten, few Sydney players dashed to get the ball back into play.
Urgency from a Kossie led side? I didn't see any.
Maybe, just maybe, they all had one eye on the 80,000 crowd expected on Tuesday.
What would you have done?
Four games, four goals, four draws.
Not sure we learned a lot, but my winners of the weekend were the Central Coast Mariners.
With a nice lead up top a draw for all teams meant the Mariners were probably the happiest with a draw this weekend
Canberra's Caitlin Munoz stuck one in in front of 5,000 fans in today's A-League challenge.
The Jets beat Sydney 4-2 and great to see some goals...unlike in the A-League today.
FFA match report is below.
Socceroo midfielder, Serie B with Grosseto and his team is on the rise.
Where and when will Carl Valeri be moving?
Serie A? England. Glasgow Celtic:) I'll keep you posted.
SBS commentator David Basheer is calling the Beckham game on Channel 10 on Tuesday.
Anyone who heard him call Celtic v Milan recently, or even the amazingly exciting Matildas World Cup campaign, would surely have been left underwhelmed by the occasion and the sense of history and excitement in the game.
And don't you hate commentators who don't have the football knowledge, the history of the game, the passion and the nuances.
The purists and the cynics (me) may not be impressed by the Beckham/Sydney FC game.
I'm not going. There's no points at stake, not even a cup. And I like my football to mean something.
But this will be a great, historic night for football in Australia.
And it is a great initiative by the Football Federation of Australia. So hat's off to Channel 10 for showing the game, to Sydney FC, to the 80,000 who will rock up and to the FFA.
Canberra's Shaun Ontong started his first A-League game last night for Adelaide United.
Adelaide United 1 Peth Glory 1 was how it finished.
The former Australian Under 20 Captain is slowly but surely getting an increased amount of game time. Even if it is as a result of the Olyroos games and injuries, Shaun surely won't care.
And after the horror run he's had with injuries it's great to see him play.
And on last nights game. He's fast, very very enthusiastic. Has skill, quick feet and looks like he'll be around for a while. And don't you love the way he gets in their faces.
He won't die wondering!
If he can stay injury free, and continue to get game time he may well be the sort of player who pushes for a starting place next year. As a former Australian Under 20 Captain he must surely have more to offer once he gets more games under his belt.
Think Adam D'Apuzzo at the Jets, Bruce Djite, Leigh Broxham and even Nathan Burns. All players who have pushed and earned a regular place in their second year.
Makes you wonder if the providers of the shirt have any, I mean any idea, about football
Manchester City have recently signed up with Perth Glory, or the other way round depending on your view:)
City have offered the Glory fans City shirts to wear on their "Tour of Duty" to Adelaide.
Need less to say not a Glory fan had a City shirt in the TV pictures this evening.
Why would you? Will City fans be wearing Glory shirts in England? The Glory probably have fans who support English teams, but the chances of them all supporting City is zero.
Besides if you are on the "tour of duty," you really are hard core Glory.
And there's only one shirt for you isn't there.
Makes you wonder if the providers of the shirt have any, I mean any idea about football
Sadly it was always going to happen once the internet fueled Sydney/Melbourne taunting carried over to the Telstra Dome and surrounding areas.
The headlines were bad for the game, and we all know it isn't Europe or even one day cricket game, but a few "fans" have sorted it for everyone.
And if you throw a flare, smash a tram window, swear in unison at the opposition fans, and generally charge through the roadways surrounding the ground, in Melbourne particularly Melbourne, the media are going to have a field day.
And so football fans are divided again, just like the world over. So that makes it right?
Wrong.
If the Victory lose this weekend are they out? If the Mariners win have they secured an Asian Champions League place. Will Beckham show? Will the Croatian fans turn-up?
And should the Mariners win I for one will be glad for the Final Series, a series that some Australian football fans still don't like.
Imagine what would happen to crowds and interest if like Victory last year the Mariners secured the title early, and there was no final series.
My eyes would be popping just like former Socceroo and Beckham minder, Andrew Bernal who turned up on Total Football last night. What a strange interview that one was. I digress.
So crucial games everywhere this weekend
Sally Shipard, Caitlin Munoz and Amy Chapman will all be playing for Newcastle Jets in this Sunday's opening round of the Women's A-League Challenge.
One of the Victory fan groups have been in dispute with Telstra Dome management and Victory management re:standing/safety on Level Three and a number of other issues.
And as a result the fans have protested by remaining silent for 60 minutes of recent games. Upon the 60 minute mark at the recent Melbourne Sydney game the crowd up top produced an amazing wall of noise.
All the more amazing because they hadn't made a peep all game!
Anyway it's over now. Not the dispute.
Just the lack of noise.
I for one will be delighed to hear the full Victory support as I sit at home watching in my lounge room.
Forget Fred, Victory need their support more than anything at the moment.
Welcome back.
Canberra's Joe Simunic may have given a penalty away this morning for Croatia in their final qualifying game against England at Wembley.
But it didn't matter for Croatia. They'd already qualified, but still dumped England out with a 3-2 win.
The luckiest man in World Football, Guus Hiddink, saw his Russian side sneak through, instead of England, with a 1-0 win away to Andorra.
Simunic will now add Euro 2008 to his impressive list of International tournaments He has starred for Croatia in World Cup 2002 2006, and Euro 2004.
And Croatia seemed to have improved considerably since the World Cup. A new forward line has helped.
Or maybe England just aren't as good as Australia:)
Yes, that must be it!
Well no better person to ask than our special guest on last night's Nearpost radio show former Canberra Cosmos Coach Milan Milovanovic pictured above with Nearpost host Nicole Somi.
Milan,or Milo, as he known to all in the Canberra football community, noted that across the A-Leagues it's Aussie who are succeeding.
"We had Steve McMahon at Perth, Richard Money at Newcastle, a couple of English guys in New Zealand, Pierre Littbarski and Terry Butcher at Sydney. Look at the guys doing the jobs now. They are all Australian or have been in Australia for a very long time."
"At the Cosmos we appointed former England and Everton centre back Mike Lyons. Sydney appointed Littbarski and Butcher. You have to ask yourselves the questions why with their reputations had they not got a job in their own countries. Even in the lower leagues in their own countries.
"Littbarski was a three time World Cup winner, Butcher captain of England. If these guys were recognised as great coaches, with their playing pedigree, do you think they'd be coming to coach in Australia?
"And why are they available to coach in Australia?"
"So a Canberra team needs to think hard about where it puts in coaching money."
This weeks podcast has been delayed due to:
The vibrant Canberra warm weather cafe and pub culture after the show.
The Beckham show on telly.
Producer chucking a nana
Computer error.
All of the above.
At this time our best guess is that the podcast will be up sometime later on Wednesday if we can iron out a few sound problems.
Great, great news for football fans....if you have Fox.
In case you didn't know, it's the last game, Australia need a draw or better to go to the Beijing 2008 Olympics.
The game is on an artificial surface.
Olympic Games Qualifier
Australia v DPR Korea
Wednesday 21 November
LIVE and EXCLUSIVE
FOX SPORTS 2
5.00pm
and the podcast even later tonight on here. (Yew we're faster than the ABC!)
A-League with all the weekends review and previews.
Interview with Matildas Star Caitlin Munoz. Where is she going?
Socceroos talk, I have no doubt! Arif will be into it. Poor old Dick Advocaat is going to get in the neck, I reckon!
Olyroos.
And former Canberra Cosmos Coach Milan Milovanovic discusses Canberra and the A-League.
And some of the best football music ever.....mostly English because I haven't been able to locate much other...YET!
And we also have an interview with Socceroos midfielder Carl Valeri.
You can text us, email and even phone us during the show...too much, just get the podcast here tomorrow.....
you know you want to...
You can catch Beckham on the ABC tonight at 9.25pm But Matildas star Sally Shipard will get a closer look next week at the Sydney FC Beckham game.
Matildas Star Sally Shipard writes,
"I'm actually involved in some media work 'experience' through FFA next week. Which should be very interesting. Fingers crossed I get to be within a few hundred metres of the great David Beckham hahaha."
Canberra's Matilda Stars Caitlin Munoz, Sally Shipard and Amy Chapman will play for the Newcastle Jets on Sunday at Energy Stadium, Australia.
The three teams, The Roar, The Jets and Sydney FC will all get the benefit of the talent from the ACT over the three game series.
Caitlin Munoz has been training, since a very short break after the World Cup, and is really looking forward to it.
"It's great to play at good stadiums. Hopefully it will keep the game in the public's mind and we get a good crowd."
And Caitlin and the Matildas are off to watch Sydney FC, ok Beckham FC, next week with 88,000 others.
"A few of the Matildas are going and we'll catch up for a meal. It should be a great night," said Munoz.
A trip to the UK in January/February!
Who said the life of a young footballer was fantastic.
Anyway good luck to all those chosen. And to Chris Conti, Canberran, and administrative manager of the tour.
The list of schoolgirls and boys is below.
After the miserable display of a few fans misbehaving last week in Melbourne how great it was to see A-League fan culture alive and well in New Zealand.
Not only did a few Sydney fans make the trip, or at least wear the shirts of Sydney FC, but the dismissal of Tony Popovic was a great moment.
Well who would bet against the Mariner now.
Another win, Johnny Aloisi boosting the team at just the right time. Great bit of bureaucratic fineprint could win the Minor Premiership and a place in the Asian Champions League for the Mariners.
Sydney are in the four did anybody notice?
Senator Kate Lundy announced Labour football policy on the SBS today.
And it nearly bowled me over!
$32 million over 4 years, that is double the Liberal party commitment, with most of the expenditure in the next two years.
This would cover a TELEVISED women's national league,
A Labour Government will put the World Cup qualifiers back on Free-To-Air. That will really benefit the game and give the children, the players, and our future, the chance to see the stars of the World Game they play.
And they will have a use it or lose policy for sports broadcasters.
and money for grassroots, and Australian teams into Asia.
It sounded good to me. It sounded like, finally, after all these years, an Australian Political Party can see the benefit of the game to Australia politically, economically, socially and culturally.
The Labour Party seemed to have tapped into the growth of the game at grassroots level, the Socceroos and Matildas success, and the opportunities the sports can bring to Australia through increasing our links across Asia and the World.
Not hard really. Makes you wonder why The Liberal party haven't taken the initiative over the years as they have continued to pour disproportionate amounts into Rugby Union and Rugby League.
Disproportionate to the numbers who play, and the countries the National teams meet.
Which ever party you vote for, football fans can at least be pleased about the benefits the game will gain from a Rudd Labour Government.
I'll look for a response from the Liberal party during the week.
Australia beat Nigeria 1-0 in the middle of the night. What a silly time to play football.
And the Olyroos beat Iraq 2-0 in the crucial Olympic qualifier in Gosford in front of thousands of Iraqi supporters!
Great to see, but would have been nice to all the Mariners fans fill the stadium to support Danny Vukovic and the team.
Here's hoping the Olyroos can clinch it on Wednesday in North Korea. It won't be easy but it will be a fantastic achievement if they do it.
And I for one will have been surprised after watching the Seniors in the Asia Cup.
This group of players, and it is a big group of effective players. This group have done good me thinks.
Complete the job, you've earned it.
Should I go to the Olympics to cover the Olyroos...thinking thinking, someone has to...
crucial for England that is.
Simunic's Croatia side has already qualified for Euro 2008, but if they win at Wembley they could dump England out.
Hmmmn tempting, probably not, most footballers would like to see England in the finals I reckon.
Given Joe would like to play in England he'll be looking for a strong performance on Wednesday.
Joe has already marked Christian Viera (Italy) at Japan/Korea 2002, Thierry Henry (France) Euro 2004 and Ronaldo( Brazil) Germany 2006...and of course our own Mark Viduka at Germany 2006.
Not a bad achievement for an Aussie. And that's how Joe describes himself. An Australian who loves Australia.
Don't be too harsh on the boy who chose Croatia. At 17 maybe we all made decisions we would have done differently, or maybe it' not a hanging offence anyway.
And would Joe like to finish his career with an A-League side.
"Yes," says Simunic, "I love to play for a Canberra side."
So hands off the Mariners and any other potential thieving A-League team. And anyway it will be a while yet.
Joe has a five year contract with Hertha Berlin and Canberra doesn't have a side...yet:)
Queensland Roar 1 Melbourne Victory 0
Is the Victory's season over?
Maybe, but The Roar are the on up. The Queensland crowd sensed it you felt at the end of the game. This was a big big win.
And without Craig Moore, Danny Tiatto and Michael Zullo
There wasn't much in it, but the young Robbie Kruse did what Socceroos Archie Thompson and Danny Allsopp couldn't do. He scored.
My very best new friend Mike takes Paul Sheehan's monthly anti-football piece apart on his blog.
Simon Hill discusses the continued existence of the Australian anti-football media in this months 442 magazine.
And it got me thinking, given the lack of Free To Air TV coverage and the continued snipes from many in the mainstream media, has the internet saved football in Australia?
Indeed would the A-League have sunk to NSL crowd levels without the internet?
Fantastic to see the FFA moving quickly to provide the major Women players in the country the opportunity to play in high profile games in major stadiums.
And of course it leads in nicely to next years Women's National League.
Great stuff/
hmmm weather bad, we'd already qualified, but we were thumped by another Asian team.
Anyone worried, anyone, anyone?
FFA report below.
Urawa win the Asian Champions League but what did their fans do to the trophy? The team took the trophy to the crowd and let a guy, a fan raise the trophy. Unbelievable.
Ange Postecoglou reckons the Socceroos game against Nigeria without a Coach is a wasted opportunity. He's right!
More from Mark Bosnich, Graham Arnold on the Olyroos game and Aurelio Vidmar on the ACL.
So you think the Socceroos Coach is Dick Advocaat.
Even though he's just been offered a new $4 million after-tax contract with Zenith St Petersburg, having just won the Russian league.
Oh bugger!
Well the only thing we know for sure is that the new coach is expected to be in the crowd on Saturday for the Socceroos game against Nigeria.
This will make for great fun for Fox Sports Simon Hill....and may be the newest way in the Corporate world of unveiling your new boss.
Now whatever you think of Archie, he has been to the World Cup, was in the Asian Cup squad but didn't play.
He missed out to Mark Viduka, John Aloisi, and you could argue even Brett Holman and Harry Kewell in both tournaments.
But come the European season, Viduka can't make the Argentina game in Melbourne and Aloisi didn't have a club.
and of course Archie starts!...
Oh and the A-League is challenging cricket for summer patrons, well no real surprise there.
In the Daily Telegraph this morning.
An amazingly positive story on football, particularly challenging the notion that a few International test matches make cricket a more popular sport than football.
Why not compare apples and apples.
The domestic A-League crowds against the domestic cricket competition crowds.
Stop laughing.
And then ask yourself which domestic competition gets most coverage on TV, and Radio.
You couldn't make it up could you:)
On The Nearpost show last night was Nearpost hosts, Arif Hossein, and Nicole Somi, special guest Canberra Olympic keeper and Australian Futsalroo keeper Angelo Kostantiniou and myself Eamonn Flanagan. Kai Thornton is in the front row.
Angelo Kostantiniou is back in the Australian National team. And he's delighted.
Angelo speaking on the Nearpost show last night said, "I'm back in for the games against Malaysia in Sydney on the weekend."
Why had you been dropped Angelo?
Many people have asked what happened to Terry Henry, our previous Nearpost podcaster who left the show before we went to air on 2XX.
Terry's demise, although sad, was inevitable once he tried to reason with above snake.
Shortly after this photo Terry's vocal chords were ruined. The voice of radio is now recuperating.
He tells me through an interpreter, "I'll be back when I'm louder!"
Terry is an Arsenal fan:)
Kai Thornton was our special guest talking Futsal live on 2XX Nearpost show his week. 
Kai in the studio
Of course Kai was nervous. He's nine.
It was his first time on radio, talking about his love of football. He told us how he does his 360's and nutmegs in his backyard. How he taught his brother Shae "everything he knows."
"Yeah Shae (7) is good. He should be, I taught him everything I know," said Kai.
And if you wander round the backyard at Kai's place take your boots, there's always a game on, and it's fiercely competitive!
Kai was brilliant on air. A little nervous, who isn't.
But he'd prepared well and relaxed more and more as the show went on.
The Nearpost team loved listening to Kai talk about the teams he plays for, Majura outdoor and The Storm (Futsal).
And Kai was selected for the Canberra North Side representative side during the week.
Well done Kai. You are our youngest, therefore our most special guest, EVER!
And I'll be round for a game soon....when your Dad has mowed the pitch.
A-League stuff, Nicole Somi talks Capital Football,
Armchair analyst Arif says, "Is Dick Advocaat really coming?
David Williams, Olyroo
Matthew Kemp Melbourne Victory
Kaz Patafta Melbourne Victory
Nathan a frustrated and angry Melbourne Victory fan
Angelo Kostantiniou, Ausralian International Futsalroo keeper and Canberra Olympic player.
Kai Thornton, nine years old, Futsal player.
That would get a response, immediate and swift from the fan group wouldn't it?
It worked at Celtic Park with 60,000 people, it could work in Newcastle with your next door neighbour in the 10,000 person crowd.
The FFA will do their bit, but the fans need to save our game. The loud singing abusive taunting fans. You might think it adds atmosphere, but when you are let out of the stadium, surprise, surprise the taunted want to take the insults a little further.
FFA ACTS ON ANTI-SOCIAL FANS...
There was violence at the game, Melbourne v Sydney on Saturday, so I'm told by my daughter who was at the game (she's eight), oh and every media outlet in the country.
My daughter was scared..she said she'll come back if there are no more "punch ups" as she called it.
Friggin great. That's me days at the football numbered isn't it.
