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Showing posts with label South Melbourne. Show all posts
Showing posts with label South Melbourne. Show all posts

Friday, 20 June 2008

The Weekender: Should the AIS stay in the VPL?

The Weekender: Where else can the players from the AIS play?

Paul Mavroudis is a passionate South Melbourne fan and football blogger. and Paul is making the journey to Canberra this weekend for his sides Sunday VPL clash with the AIS.

Paul writes the Weekender this week:On Saturday, I and 30 odd other South Melbourne fans will be making the trip up to Canberra by bus.....

On Saturday, I and 30 odd other South Melbourne fans will be making the trip up to Canberra by bus, to watch our team play the AIS in a Victorian Premier League clash. If you predicted this scenario a few years back, you'd have been locked in the crazy house, and rightly so. But it's true, and here we are now, two sides with very different goals and cultures, yet aiming for the moment at least for the same prize.


The inclusion of the AIS in the VPL has not been one universally welcomed by the league's regular clubs. They bring no crowds, exacerbating a problem which already hurts the VPL enormously.

The regular clubs require expensive trips up north for which the expenses allocated for it come up short. The AIS pays no transfers and no wages. It does not need to maintain the costly standards that other clubs are required to do, of press boxes, lighting and everything else that comes with running a club.


Worse still, there was the feeling that last year at least, the AIS mixed and matched its squads too frequently, as part of its quest to develop players rather than win championships.

Of course, this ended up producing quite varied results and performances, where teams would be blown off the park one day, and then come up with an easy win. And further adding to the uncertainty they create is the possibility of them leaving the competition, or even perhaps getting relegated.


The former scenario means that especially if they leave their decision to leave until late, a relegated club who may receive a stay of execution for a year due to that decision may have already lost several players to other clubs.

If as in the latter scenario the AIS do get relegated - which is highly unlikely this year, but was a possibility last season – no one in their right mind would have them playing amongst the clubs in Victoria's State League 1 competition, therefore meaning that a club that finished higher on the table may get relegated. Not an ideal situation.


There are good and bad rationales for them being in the VPL in the first place. The good is that they get to play regularly against sides looking for wins, in what is probably Australia's best 2nd tier competition, against bigger and more experienced bodies, and indeed against players with NSL or A-League experience.

One complaint that comes up about junior players is that because they spend too much time playing against each other, they are then unable to make the step up to senior competition.


The bad is that for perhaps similar reasons to those mentioned earlier, Football NSW doesn't want them, where their inclusion would make more economic sense, and many people down here in Victoria believe that their inclusion in the VPL is not only detrimental to the league and its clubs, but was made as part of a solution to the messy problem of who would get relegated in 2006, a situation many see the FFV as largely responsible for.


And yet, where else can the players from the AIS play? Participating in the National Youth League, as they used to do in the NSL days seems like the obvious solution, and it'd give Canberra some default if not ideal national representation.

But if the costs are near prohibitive for travelling to Victoria every 2nd week, how would they cope with travelling to Perth and Adelaide on multiple occasions? In the NSL days, the AIS played against predominantly NSW based opposition, but that is not an option in these times.

With the deal with the Wellington Phoenix seemingly falling through, the kids need to play somewhere - and even in the NYL, 18 games a year would probably not cut it - but it appears until there's a sudden injection of funding to make that possibility a reality, the AIS are here to stay in the VPL, bringing with them all their anomalies.

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Wednesday, 18 June 2008

South Melbourne fans coming to Canberra



And thirty loyal fans are making the journey. Paul Mavroudis writes a South Melbourne FC blog and he sent the pre-match travel report which you can read below.

These were the teams when South Melbourne and Man Utd met in the World Club Championships in Rio in 2001. Just seven years later the furthest they travel is Canberra. This week they play the AIS on Sunday in Canberra!

Man Utd: Van Der Gouw, P Neville, Higginbottom, Berg, Wallwork, Cruyff, Wilson, Greening, Fortune, Solskjaer, Cole. Subs: Bosnich, Rachubka, G Neville, Irwin, Silvestre, Stam, Beckham, Butt, Giggs, Yorke, Keane.

South Melbourne: Jones, Iosifidis, De Amicis, Blatsis, Clarkson, Panopoulos, Trimboli, Curcija, Anastasiadis, Lozanovski, Liparoti. Subs: Udvaracz, Roche, Coveny, Alagich, Cuzzupe, Magnacca, Goutzoulis, Tsekinis, Psonis, Mustafa, Culibrk.


Paul wrote:

The game is on Sunday. We'll be leaving 10pm Saturday night, about 30 of us, and some more travelling up in their own cars. We're going to have a couple of stops on the way. We were hoping to be able to have lunch at the Hellenic club, but their dress code would probably exclude a whole bunch of blokes (and one brave lady) almost exclusively attired in football supporters gear. I hope we can find a way to get around that, seems like a good venue.

So the plan is get to Canberra sometime in the morning, see some of the sights, embassies and other places more juvenile minds like to go. Maybe have a bbq in lieu of a more formal lunch, then catch the game, then basically straight back with hopefully a radio broadcast of the Socceroos-China game.

A lot of bus companies when they found out we were from a soccer club/South Melbourne didn't want to deal with us or bumped up the prices significantly.

So we're having to take a self drive option which means limited sinking of piss for those who like to do so.

Personally as a non-drinker, I'm glad that the bus won't be an esky on wheels. It should be an absolute belter of a trip.

I haven't been interstate in about 9 years, and never been to Canberra!

There's a dvd player on the bus so we'll be playing some highlights of the previous two years and some early to mid 1990s stuff, real Australian top flight golden era stuff, the 91 GF, the clash of the titans, Heidelberg's many beltings at our hands...

Will be even better if we can manage to sneak a point of the game :)

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Thursday, 5 June 2008

Football fans travelling to Canberra.

A busload of South Melbourne fans are heading to Canberra for the AIS v South Melbourne clash on June 22nd. Great to see their dedication.

How many fans would come from Melbourne or Sydney for A-League clashes if we had a Canberra team? Sorry, just wishful thinking.

This weekend the AIS take on Heidelberg United. Watch out for young Canberra flyer Kofi Danning. Big things, big things expected of the young lad, this from an AIS team that NEVER, and I mean NEVER in my knowledge, talk up any players.

Will he play EPL or Champions League, that's the rumour....assuming every thing else goes to plan, watch him while you can!

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